The Ugly Facts About Black-​on-​Black Racism a reply to Ste­fan Molyneux


False premises and flawed think­ing? One of the major prob­lems with this con­ver­sa­tion is that the par­tic­i­pants don’t seem to under­stand the dif­fer­ence between prej­u­dice and racism. Not one time in this long con­ver­sa­tion did I hear the word prej­u­dice men­tioned. Because of this, an incor­rect think­ing process has taken place. Racism may pro­ceed out of a prej­u­dice mind but those thoughts have to be acted upon in order for them to be racist. One would think that the par­tic­i­pants would be cog­nizant of this and thereby demon­strate cau­tion when using these terms.

The next point of con­tention is the use of the terms black and white when refer­ring to indi­vid­u­als or groups. I am going to make an assump­tion here that may be incor­rect, but I assume that both indi­vid­u­als are col­lege grad­u­ates. I will also be force to assume that they must have for­got­ten their pri­mary edu­ca­tion. Which teaches the color spec­trum. I do not have to have clear vision to tell that the per­son on the other end of this con­ver­sa­tion is brown man. But from this point on, I will refer to him and oth­ers as a (so called) black man or (so called) white man. I under­stand why it could be hard for some so called white peo­ple to talk about racism. And as the mod­er­a­tor stated it is the mem­ory of past events, and even if a (so called) white per­son would never think of any­thing remotely on the level of past events they are still felling of group con­nec­tion. I have given this some thought as to what has hap­pen in so (so called) white peo­ple in regards to this.

In the con­ver­sa­tion the mod­er­a­tor make a request that (so called) black peo­ple get help with their fam­ily abuse issues. This request has much merit and is at the root prob­lem. If I’m not mis­taken the request was made because of the under­stand­ing that this is abuse. A cor­rect assump­tion. What is fas­ci­nat­ing is that this type of think­ing never gets taken to the next level. Peo­ple who are abused become abusers (unless they resist it). When I talk to peo­ple about racism I make an effort to remind them about the con­di­tion­ing that occurred in Europe. Most peo­ple reply to me stat­ing ” What has that got to do with racism they are all (so called) white peo­ple?) My reply to them is “that is cor­rect but they had a cast sys­tem, were more than 95% of the peo­ple were on the lower rung.People who are abused become abusers and I’ll leave it at that. How ever the prob­lem with not think­ing about it is that as the say­ing goes “Those who for­get the past are doom to repeat it”.

The prob­lem in ques­tion requires a mul­ti­dis­ci­pli­nary approach. One of the dis­ci­pline is rel­a­tively new and is called “Epi­ge­net­ics” which basi­cally it states that one genet­ics is formed by the exter­nal stim­uli. So maybe we should (with­out prej­u­dice) con­tem­plate the con­di­tion the the com­mu­ni­ties in ques­tion have been exist­ing with and not the red her­ring of I.O. test.I.Q. test can only tell one how well adjusted indi­vid­u­als are to the education/​indoctrination the sys­tem has pro­vided. I made a reply to a state­ment the post “A Cur­rent Nar­ra­tive That Is Pop­u­lar in The Media is that the United States National Anthem is White Suprema­cist… Really? I’m going to look as I write this.” where this state­ment was made by a reader I quote “They think its cool with the whole black power stuff. Their par­ents actu­ally had some­thing to fight for, and blacks got every rights the white man had. But he couldnt do any­thing with it. 50 years later and they are just *uck­ing up what their grand­fa­thers fought for.”

Another needed dis­ci­pline would be a fact based history!

My reply to his was and I quote “This comes from not know­ing Amer­i­can his­tory you prob­a­bly would say that about the (so called) red man if there were enough of them left to make a dif­fer­ence . Most (so-​called) white peo­ple think after the civil war (so-​called) Black peo­ple where free to do what ever they felt they needed to do. This is far from the truth! The KKK was still in effect, and if I am mis­taken please cor­rect me. The (so-​called) Black peo­ple were given the right to gov­ern them­selves but was quickly taken away, there were Jim crow laws that were in place up until the mid 1960 s. Also in the 50 there was redlin­ing a bank pol­icy that made it impos­si­ble for(so called) black peo­ple to get lone to start busi­nesses. Well that’s a lot of miss­ing time for boot strap­ping (pulling your­self up by your boot strap) Kinda of hard when you take away the straps. When you con­sider the civil war ended in 1865 ( that a hun­dred years) and there were still Jim Crow laws in the south one hun­dred years later. Of cause it was not like that all over the U.S. in the west the (so-​called) Black peo­ple did well in what was called Black Wall St. Well they did will until there town was bomb.”

As far as the per­cent­age of (so called) blacks attack­ing white. I invite you to look up facts regard­ing (so called) whites attack­ing dur­ing the 400 years of enslave­ment. Peo­ple in glass houses should not throw stones. But I’m not writ­ing just to com­plain. Lets talk about the solu­tions not book endorsements!


In order to do this I am going to talk from per­sonal expe­ri­ence. When I was in school I was never a good stu­dent. I would have never been able to write what your read­ing now. I have always been able to make it to the top of any of the tech­ni­cal field I hap­pen to be in at the time, by using gim­micks to cover for my lack of writ­ten com­mu­ni­ca­tion skills. I have held posi­tions such as Air­craft tech­ni­cian to assist­ing with hair trans­plant (Oper­at­ing room tech­ni­cian). These jobs came only after I learned about the his­tory of my peo­ple before their time of their enslave­ment. which I believe gave me the per­cep­tion of con­fi­dence (I can do this). The mod­er­a­tor talk about throw­ing money at (spend­ing a lot of money on) the prob­lems in my com­mu­nity. What this does is to pro­vide help for those who are on the mar­gins, (are in good com­mu­ni­ties) those who had some mea­sure of com­pe­tence in them­selves to start with, but does not help com­mu­nity as a hold.

If Africans were to learn about how great their ances­tors (once thought to be a myth but now back up with hard facts) were in the pass this would make the dif­fer­ence. But in order for this to be done with out caus­ing prob­lem for (so-​called) white peo­ple a his­tory of seg­re­ga­tion in class rooms would be needed. Because as you say it’s hard for (so-​called) white peo­ple to con­ciser the action of their ances­tors, and we are the ones who are made to pay for it. But if this is to end we will have to start to tell the truth. A hard, maybe impos­si­ble thing for the sys­tem to do.

Look for a post on this topic com­ing soon.

All that is gold does not glitter.

All those who wan­der are not lose.

The old that is strong does not witter.

Deep roots are not reach by the frost!

I almost for to ask this ques­tion. You quoted sta­tis­tics on (so-​called) black on white crimes or attacks for some­time in the 2000’s.

Can you please quote those same sta­tis­tics for the year 1910 if not how about 1920 or 1930 or 1940 or even the 1950’s? Peo­ple in glass houses should not throw stones!

Ste­fan Molyneux’s post can be found here https://​www​.youtube​.com/​w​a​t​c​h​?​v​=​U​f​v​n​0​f​9​P​7​t​E

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